Armi San Marco and Armi Sport now Chiappa are two different companies. The new value of an ARMI SAN MARCO pistol has fallen ($12.95) dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $286.19 . A friend of mine purchased a 1874 Sharps repo made by them a few years back for a Christmas gift for his son. The Remington-Beals as it was called back then came into its own with the onset of the Civil War. I got them from EMF. I love the old cap and ball revolvers. Of course it is one of the old ones which may be the reason. Most folks shoot them with charges down in the 20-grain range. The type of man who could sell Deep Freezers and electric Fans to Eskimos! Serves the same purpose as putting lube over the ball as described in the article, but with less mess, and assists in proper compression with lighter loads. The Remington cost about 50 cents more per copy than the various Colt models, due to the top strap frame construction, and was not as widely issued. Gauge: 44 percussion. New in Box-never fired. Not only is that the right way to hunt, deer that go down fast and clean taste better. But its not hunting. Web44 Caliber; very good+ bore, good grips, 7.75'' barrel, Pietta .44 caliber Remington 1858 style six shot black powder revolver in nickel plate finish. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Howell Conversions - GATED 1858 Remington Pietta .45 LC. I like that yall are diversifying the content a little bit. .44 Caliber 8in Blued Octagonal Barrel Brass Guard Walnut Grip Steel Frame Top Strap/Post Sights Overall Length: 14.5in Weighs: 2.75 pounds Model: FR18582 WHY CUSTOMERS CHOSE THIS ITEM Specifications Questions & They supplied American retailers with replica firearms over the 1960s thru 1990s. SOME PATINA ON 36 Caliber; 80% blue, fair bore, good grips, 505'' barrel, REPRODUCTION 1862 POCKET NAVY REVOLVER. Today you can quickly convert your own Remington 1858, without first paying off some big corporation, by merely dropping in a cartridge conversion cylinder two popular versions are the Taylors R&D and Kirst conversions. NAVAL SCENE ENGRAVED ON CYLINDER. A great design of a pistol. Chat with us; Phone us at (616) 432-6640 . Used, shows wear and handling, small dings in the area of the cylinder pin end. My Command Sergeant Major made me promise to shoot it and not just keep it in my safe. THE FINISH IS A STRIKING IRIDESCENT CHARCOAL BLUING WITH A TINY SPECK OF RUST IN FRONT OF THE TRIGGER 45 Caliber; 94% blue, good bore, excellent grips, 11'' barrel, ITALIAN REPRODUCTION "W. PARKER-LONDON" SINGLE SHOT PERCUSSION PISTOL. Some folks claim doing so helps prevent chain fires, or all the cylinders going off at once. Very nice article on the 1858 Remington. Our governor says that they can melt when shot I have a few black powder guns I have hunted with them for years and have yet seen one melt down .But the Local store here wont order one for you. These models have steel frames with German silver plated backstrap and trigger guard, inspectors cartouche on grip, and trade for approximately $20-$40 higher than standard Safety pins, safety notches, po-TAY-tow, po-TOT-owe. ). I might be wrong about this! COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Pietta "1858" CCH Hammer with lowered Spur by Ol' #4 30.00 + 2.75 shipping via USPS Selling as a set: Pietta Hammer, Trigger, Hand w/spring, Bolt/Trigger Spring and Hammer Spring 23.00 shipped. Unfortunately, ASM also changed their name to Chaparral about the same time. Now, if only I could get my wife to come with me and reload.oh well. The used value of an ARMI SAN MARCO pistol has fallen ($12.42) BORE IS GOOD 44 Caliber; 80% blue, good bore, very good grips, 8'' barrel, REPRODUCTION NEW MODEL ARMY REVOLVER IN VERY GOOD CONDITION. Did you wash it in kitchen sink? Fordyce Beals. THE BLUING IS NEAR FLAWLESS AS IS THE CASE COLORED FRAME AND HAMMER. Regulators. Bore and chambers in very good+ $395.00 Add to Cart Compare Pietta Remington Percussion - C55996 WebAN ARMI SAN MARCO pistol is currently worth an average price of $286.19 new and $274.52 used . WebAN ARMI SAN MARCO pistol is currently worth an average price of $286.19 new and $274.52 used . Model: 1858. The strong Remington frame made it fairly easy to convert the pistol over to metallic cartridge use, as firearms technology rapidly advanced after the Civil War. I have owned a dozen or more 1860 Army copies. Pietta and Uberti cylinders do not interchange. Two Armi San Marco 1858 New Model Percussion Revolvers Auction Date: May 25, 2022. Gauge: 44 percussion. WOW , thanks for the history , I do see parts ,lighter springs even cylinders for these guns BUT not with the ASM manufacture ,parts are crossed to gun type like "1851 navy" ,would one say theres a strong chance they would work in ASM brand "1851 navy" ? On clening, dont whatever you do mention water, on a web site run by some guy named John Fuhring. CASE HARDENED RECEIVER. As neat as that would seem it can also be a curse. 1866 Rifle Manual. I have no idea how many guns Ive owned since my first .22 at the age of 12 but in the most fun category I could narrow it down to two. Type: Revolver. Used, bore is dirty, grips are worn. How about a five year old 1851 Navy, to a current 1861 Navy? WOODEN GRIPS ARE NEAR MINT 45 Caliber; 85% blue, very good bore, very good stock, 10'' barrel, REPRODUCTION KENTUCKY PERCUSSION PISTOL. Didn't happen though. They make the guns for different companies and the workmanship is terrible. Lot 429: Armi San Marco Reproduction 1858 Revolver Two Reproduction Percussion Revolvers Auction Date: November 3, 2016 Estimated Price: $ 200 - $ 500 Price Realized: Details A) Armi San Marco Model 1858 Remington Revolver with Matching Box Manufacturer: ARMI SAN MARCO Model: 1858 Type: Revolver Gauge: 44 percussion On opening day he is in his blind and simply waits for a really good buck to come along. If yoiui can keep all six shots in a four inch circle, at whatever range you think you are likely to see a deer, then take your Remington Percussion Revolver hunting. And a .50 sabot over 100 grains of Pyrodex is a humane, instant-kill deer load out to 150 yards. The Remington on the other hand, was very WELL DESIGNED, and was considered to be one of the strongest Percussion Revolvers ever made, It also had a very superior Sighting System, with the rear sight a notch in the frame, and a post or blade foresight at the end of the barrell,, at the tip! Changes were made in the production guns to make sure they could not be passed off as an original. Rolling Plain walnut grips. I had a pawl spring break on my late 1980's era EMF 1860 (Armi San Marco). 6d 19h left (Thu, 11:33 AM) $29.95 Buy It Now +$7.95 shipping Sponsored Genuine ASM & CVA - Stop Bolt - For Remington 1858 Revolver - Armi San Marco New (Other) $27.95 Buy It Now +$3.99 shipping Sponsored Rust and pitting on metal. Thus making it almost impossible for a cap to fall into the workings of the gun. He took the gun back. Perfect for display and target shooting. Grips for the Uberti 1873 Cattleman El Patron Grizzly Paw New Model as well as the 1860 and 1872 Colt army made by Cimarron, Pietta and Uberti. In the beginning, I had a pair of ASM Colt clones. The thing now runs great, and I enjoy shooting it when I do. Two Armi San Marco 1858 New Model Percussion Revolvers Auction Date: May 25, 2022. Water is definitely the very best way to get rid of Black Powder fouling. I have replacements now, but I keep it around as a back-up. New in Box-never fired. Colt .44 with 30 grain. Copyright 1995-2023 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. I remember that ASM was sold to American Western Arms who only produces cartridge revolvers. Me too. The 2nd ASM is a Colt SAA clone, the EMF "Hartford" model. Mounted Shooting 1873 Rifle Cleaning Instructions. -drop safety-Hammer- - Z52780, A. Uberti & C. 1872 Open Top Youve done a real service to fellow shooters there. SOLD I used to also have an 1858 Remington clone by ASM. Grips for the Uberti 1873 Cattleman El Patron Grizzly Paw New Model as well as the 1860 and 1872 Colt army made by Cimarron, Pietta and Uberti. Not part of Uberti in any wayexcept by marriage. In my opinion, I don t think its enough. ; 98% blue, excellent bore, excellent+ grips, 7 1/2'' barrel, UBERTI REPRODUTION OF A COLT 1872 OPEN TOP REVOLVER IN EXCELLENT+ CONDITION. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. I have a pieta with aftermarket Tresso nipples that do not fit the standard Remington capstoo loose, but fit Dynamil Nobel caps perfectly. Their SAA's are a good example. 1873 Rifle Manual. You could become the next Farinelliif youre lucky. But to me, it just seems that a black powder gun pushing a round ball does not have the ballistics to routinely be lethal on a whitetail deer. Web44 Caliber; very good+ bore, good grips, 7.75'' barrel, Pietta .44 caliber Remington 1858 style six shot black powder revolver in nickel plate finish. All Armi San Marco black powder cap and ball and cartridge conversion models were discontinued in 2000. WebBuy a Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Replica Italian made .44 Remington 1858 Replica by manufacturer Armi San Marco. WebThe 1858 Remington New Army is both a beautiful collectors piece and a rugged side arm. http://www.1858remington.com, a.k.a. Any gun made before Jan 1 1999 i is an antique gun, and requires no involvement of an FFL holder. But, since we don't spin in SASS, it's not a problem I worry about. Ive been pretty satisfied with Clean Shot sub, and it smokes a lot less and produces significantly less fouling. I think if I was to get a cap and ball revolver I would look for one of the stainless steel Rugers. Someone asked why they are called .44s if they take a .452 or .454 ball. THE BORE IS 45 Caliber; 97% blue, good bore, excellent grips, 10'' barrel, ITALIAN REPRODUCTION OF A "W.MOORE-LONDON" SINGLE SHOT CAP & BALL PISTOL IN VERY GOOD OVERALL CONDITION. Finish in very good condition with some scratches and nicks. .44 Caliber 8in Blued Octagonal Barrel Brass Guard Walnut Grip Steel Frame Top Strap/Post Sights Overall Length: 14.5in Weighs: 2.75 pounds Model: FR18582 WHY CUSTOMERS CHOSE THIS ITEM Specifications Questions & It was late at night and I could hear my dog fighting with something. Java, from Plymouth MA. Also on the note of black powder, someone with a lesser felony conviction can own a black powder gun as long as the magazine cannot be altered to fire High power center fire ammunition (45-70 and .45 colt cowboy rounds do not apply). The same dimensional differences for width, etc will occur with the triggerguard and backstrap at the frame, but the screw pattern is always right on. Just my opinion. I have guns I bought from them as long ago as 2001, and they are all beautiful. Actually. I take all three to the range regularly in the appropriate recreation leather. THE LOCK IS IN THE WHITE. But the website is easy to track sale prices through the year. My dad bought one of these (pretty sure its the same thing) with an 8 barrel. It required something Long and thin, preferably with a hook at its end, to fish the Mashed and Mangled remains of the cap, out of the Innards of the gun, before Battle could once more be joined! Both can be fixed just like Colt fixed them in the day. These models have steel frames with German silver plated backstrap and trigger guard, inspectors cartouche on grip, and trade for approximately $20-$40 higher than standard THE BORE IS MIRROR BRIGHT WITH MINTY RIFLING 44 Caliber; 97% blue, excellent bore, very good grips, 8'' barrel, PIETTA REPRODUCTION OF A COLT MODEL 1860 ARMY PERCUSSION REVOLVER. Pietta "1858" CCH Hammer with lowered Spur by Ol' #4 30.00 + 2.75 shipping via USPS Selling as a set: Pietta Hammer, Trigger, Hand w/spring, Bolt/Trigger Spring and Hammer Spring 23.00 shipped. Lightning Manual. Dear Mr. Nickel, Many, many thanks for making this information public. I weighs a ton, has a 9 inch barrel and is damn accurate. Dont touch it unless the gun is pointing in a safe direction cause there is is no transfer bar. The used value of an ARMI SAN MARCO pistol has fallen ($12.42) Armi San Marco is still making guns and they are known for making guns with bad workmanship. Hot water dissolves the salts in black powder fouling and heats the metal so it dryes fast and prevents flash rust. THE BLUING IS NEAR FLAWLESS. Very scary as all get out. WebThe 1858 Remington New Army is both a beautiful collectors piece and a rugged side arm. Finish in very good condition with some scratches and nicks. Though the guns be identical, the first is free of any legal imcumberance, while the second has an FFL holder and a waiting period to deal with. Then, I took it to a gunhack who buggered the threads. oops! Loved the pics too. I respect your opinion, but roll my eyes when you try to state that as a matter of fact when its an opinion. Some of it justifiedhowever if you know the reason then it's some what understandable. ASM attempted to revive its percussion revolvers with limited success and finally closed its doors several years back. It isnt the first C&B Revolver Ive bought, but the first one belongs to my son and he has it. Original blued finish, case colored frame, brass trigger guard and backstrap. I send one of their revolvers back after opening it. When Puma started having the 92's made by them instead of Rossi in Brazil, they increased the prices but not the workmanship. Remington with 40 grains. Thanks. converted to fire fixed ammunition by replacing the barrel, bolt, breechblock, or any combination The rifle is the best looking gun in my collection, even better than my Henry. That means that two Colt Peacemakers coming off the line 1 minute apart (11:59PM on Dec 31 1898 and 12:00 AM on Jan 1, 19 99, define the force of the law. So, they tended to go out of time prematurely, particularly for CAS. Rare US coins, Carson City, Nevada history, Redheads. if you wish you can contact your local ATF to find your answer. Click on the "Full Description" fore more info. In 1993, the Hartford line was introduced by E.M.F. It is meat harvesting, pure and simple. THE BRIGHT BLUING IS EVEN THROUGHOUT. Very cool stuff. New in Box-never fired. He took the gun back. Chat with us; Phone us at (616) 432-6640 . Retail $300. He carried a nickel plated 8 Remington 1858 and a peacemaker. The 1858 Remington is a single-action, cap-and-ball percussion revolver, usually .44 caliber, although versions were also made in both .31 and .36 calibers. Bore and stock in very good condition, rear sight is missing and front sight is loose. All of the Pietta replicas I have are fantastic, and they were all sourced from the same supplier (see last paragraph). They are all excellent fit and finish. I did know enough about black powder to use soap and water and clean until the bubbles showed white with no discoloration, but I screwed up and did not fully disassemble the cylinder and firing mechanism and after three months in storage (before and after a move) it was a rusty mess. Bought both of mine mail order from Cabelas. Lightning Manual. It could definitely be loaded to deer-hunting levels but I just used it to punch large holes in an old oil drum we left against the sand bank at the quarry. FRONT SIGHT IS MISSING. The one who makes a career of it will begin to stick out like a sore thumb, before long just based on the volume of questionable facts he spouts. For more recent exchange rates, please use the. In the original box serial numbered to the gun. To avoid the dreaded chain fire, find caps that fit tightly on your nipples. Type: Revolver. Finish in very good condition with some scratches and nicks. These are considered antiques and not subject to paper work. The firing pin broke on the 3 or 4th shot. How consistent are Uberti cap and ball revolver parts? They were based primarily on the early 1st. That sucker started flipping all over the place. Hooray for water! Put some lube over the ball to prevent chain fire. I just purchased an ASM replica of a 1858 Remington 44 and was wondering if anyone had any information about it. One good smack on the percussion caps, and BOOM! WebRemington 1858 Armi San Marco 44 Black powder loading and shooting 4,144 views May 17, 2015 37 Dislike Share Save Harri Miettinen 68 subscribers Subscribe Shooting Actually it was because of the pony on the grips AND the name, Colt won the lawsuit. A) Armi San Marco 1858 New Model Percussion Revolver. Powered by Invision Community. WebDescription: Remington Model 1858 New Model Army Revolver, .44 caliber. I lowered my ball size from .454 to 451 (pietta) and dropped my charge from 30 to 20 grains. To date I have only had two minor issues with it: - 1) the firing pin retainer had to tapped in a bit as dragged on the frame very mildly, local smith fixed that in 2 seconds. Take that, and cross reference it the list below. Cimarron Thunderer and Fine quality pistol, exhibits high standards of Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Powder replica. WebAsm armi san marco 1858 Cylinder Pin #165 Pre-Owned $22.99 weimdog27 (722) 100% Buy It Now Free 3 day shipping Sponsored Armi San Marco MSM inc dual trigger set with adjustment hawken muzzle loader $150.00 eldorablerentals (1,449) 100% Buy It Now +$9.50 shipping Sponsored ARMI SAN MARCO ASMREMINGTON 1858BLUESTEEL If youre not lucky, then youve got a tear in your femoral artery and only a few minutes to stop the bleeding before youre introduced to Eliphalet Remington at that great gun factory in the sky. Thatd be 24 shots of fairly rapid fire, not shabby even by todays standards. Stamped on top of octagon barrel "1855 SPAIN". I was told a few years back that the other gun makers in Italy approached them and requested that they work harder on the craftsmanship as they were giving the Italian gun makers a bad name. .44 Cal percussion. I ended up giving it to an NRA black powder teacher to use for show and tell, (to show his class how to ruin a beautiful piece by not properly cleaning before long term storage). My dad of course saw them when they were new. BRASS TRIGGER GUARD / GRIP ASSEMBLY. Question of the Day: Do You Worry About Unarmed Loved Ones? I found that mis fires and hang fires happened all the time. Turned out the Chaparral "factory" was just across the street and run by the gun shop's son . Of course, I didn't run them like the hot shoes. THE FRAME , HAMMER AND RAMROD ASSEMBLY RETAIN APPROX 94% OF .45 Colt; 98% blue, near mint bore, very good grips, 7 1/2'' barrel, UBERTI REPRODUCTION OF A REMINGTON MODEL 1875 ARMY REVOLVER IN EXCELLENT OVERALL CONDITION. One, an 1851 clone was built of the same parts produced by Uberti when they built the Colt "2nd Gen" percussion revolvers. It is all nickle, less the cylinder and plunger, which are gold, and a walnut grip. The strong top-strap design, the ease of swapping cylinders and the safety notches are all reasons why so many modern cap-and-ball shooters still turn to Fordyce Beals design. Regular gun solvents cant remove the black powder salts. Retail $300. Although original 1858s were finished in a very uniform blue, I particularly like the color-case hardening on the frame and the plain-jane, oil-finished grips. The patent date is 1858. About 400 ft-lbs Energy. I had a Peacekeeper ASM and also a Longhorn in .45, never had trouble with them but I didn't have them very long, I sold them and bought my first Colt! I think the ASMs from around that time were pretty good guns. In the Remington Revolver, the cap is struck by the hammer, AFTER it passes through the slot in the Recoil Shield! And man, do we have a lot of Bambis kin running loose here. I have been cleaning black powder revolvers for almost 50 years. Selleck wields a S&W Scholfield and a 1860 (I think) Colt open frame Army. 21478. First load powder, then press ball. They make the guns for different companies and the workmanship is terrible. hello again my good friends , I have a couple sets of BP cap/ball one is a mixed set of open top 1-36 navy and a 44 navy/army and the other is a set of 1858 new army is 44 any how was thinkin of pull-in them out of the safe and maybe doing a tune up ,try to soffen those big springs but don't see any thing on them any more , not a mention , were these "junk " guns .? Fits .44 and .36 7.25 ea + 2.75 shipping via USPS 1 ea. If you look closely during that scene, you can see the metallic cartridge loading gate cut into the 1858, as well as the metallic cartridges themselves peeking out of the cylinder that Preacher grabs with his left hand. They are the Edsel of. The conversion cylinder is indeed just a part, and can be bought anywhere any time any place. what ever happen to "army san marcos" guns ? He examined the gun and proclaimed it one of the good ones and made me a really good offer that I applied to a like new in box NMV. Retail $300. If you see one for sale someplace, check it out carefully before you buy. Treat he hammer with the same respect you treat the trigger. He took the gun back. He then shoots it. This was sold and moved to Marietta, OH., and then, in around 1973, was sold to Navy Arms. Oh, and dont use your telephone to order them, either. It ensures that every round fires the same without pushing the ball too deep into the cylinder. 1873 Single Action Manual. Personally, I use wonder wads, commercially available round pieces of felt soaked in oil and wax (or you can make your own), between the ball and the powder. Mounted Shooting 1873 Rifle Cleaning Instructions. Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Powder replica. If you want to be one of those Youre only hunting if.. people. I have a used stainless Army San Paolo 1858 Remington that I got off Gunbroker several years ago and still havent fired it. Bore and chambers in very good+ $395.00 Add to Cart Compare Pietta Remington Percussion - C55996 It is all nickle, less the cylinder and plunger, which are gold, and a walnut grip. A recruit, playing (Hopefullly with an UN-Loaded revolver!) The greatest going away gift I ever got in my 25 years in the Army was the Uberti 1873 with my name and callsign engraved on the barrel that the guys in my battalion gave me when I left command. I have a Pietta target model I like to take with me backpacking. EMF had ASM building them before they switched to Uberti. Nice! I've had to do very little fitting on Uberti or Pietta replacement parts - Hammer/trigger/hand/bolt/cylinder/loading lever. JavaScript is disabled. Customer Service. and practise with that heavy load! WebThat isn't going to be the case with the Italian replicas, but more often than not the answer is easily found stamped on the revolver.
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